Went to the show and was very impressed with the seat on the F7. Very soft, felt good on the butt. The clothing line for the sticker packages were great. Matching helmet,Jacket and bibs. The Patriot helment was beautiful. The rep said the F7 was 4 to 5 sled lengths faster than the ZR800. I think I will still wait to see the new Doo's. I'm not to impressed with the hood design on the F7. Looks like a bird's beak. At least the ski-doo looks like a cat eating alligator nose.