Rick M, right on. Ski-Doo believe it or not, has some real issues this year. They are having trouble with recoils, jetting, MPEM, and performance on "some" of their models. I was in the local dealer yesterday, and the mechanics are having a terrible time getting some of the new 800's and 01 800's with, and without DPM, to run correctly. Jetting has become an issue with Mikuni, not Ski-Doo, but let me be the first to tell you, if we had a big snowfall winter, there would be a lot of people jumping ship. When it comes to research and development, "WE" the buyer are It. I cannot bash any product on this forum, but I really think Artic Cat, Yamaha, and especially Polaris have some great products out there. Have you guys ever noticed how many more posts on are the Ski-Doo forums compared to the others? HMMM, don't suppose that is because of trouble free riding do you? Think about it. Piece out.