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As far as 2 strokes, is the Mach z the fastest out there compared to: late (90's, early 2000's)

zrt800
thundercat
v-max 4
ect......

Just wondering.
 

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TOP TOP END, Yes, I'd say the MACH! :p
 

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T-Cat 1000 is the fastest. VMax-4 is second. Mach is quick......but they just can't touch the above mentioned 2 sleds. A 98 Yamaha SRX will eat a Mach as well.

A VMax 4 800 stock will do about 105 mph on the radar. T-Cat 1000 about 110-112 mph on radar. A Mach 1.....about 95 mph. Now start modding powertrain and suspension, and whoever's got the most money wins. HOWEVER, with the VMax being a 4 cylinder engine, greater HP gains are more easilly attainable. Getting 180 hp out of a VMax-4 is not that difficult if you've got a few bucks to spend.
 

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SRX eating a Mach....... C'mon now, let's not get silly here.... :lmao:
 

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I will put my 2001 bone-stock T-Cat up against ANY bone-stock sled. You may get me off the line, but when I hit 70 mph.....Sayonara, Baby.......
 

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No, you're not wrong, if they're looked after properly, they're quite reliable! I'm approaching 16,500km, 13,000km since the top was rebuit :D
 

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I would have to say the Mach Z. Ive eatin SRX's like it was breakfest. The closest race i had was with a T Cat but i crossed the line first.
I have 11000 KM with no problems.
 

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Here are some results from a STOCK run in Finland last year.

STOCK OVER 600

Ski-Doo MXZ Renegade X 1000 SDI -06.......................165.90, 168.22
Yamaha RX-1 SP -06..................................................169.81, 171.43
Arctic-Cat F7 -06 ...................................................165.90, 168.22
Polaris Fusion 900 -05 ................................................162.16
Yamaha RS Vector "BadBoy" -06 .................................153.19, 153.19
RX-1 GT -06 ...................................................155.17, 162.16
Lynx Yeti V800 4t. -06 ................................................97.56
Ski-Doo MXZ Renegade X 1000 SDI -06 ......................162.90, 164.38
Ski-Doo Mach Z 1000 -05 ...........................................153.19, 158.59
Yamaha RX-1 -03 .................................................162.90, 165.14
Yamaha RX-1 GT -06 ............................................162.90
Yamaha V-Max4 800 MountainMax -96 .........................168.22, 168.22
Ski-Doo MXZ 800 X -05 ..............................................162.16, 162.16
Yamaha V-Max 700 DX -01 .........................................146.94, 146.34
Arctic-Cat F7 -04 167,44 .............................................166.67
Arctic-Cat Bearcat 660WT Turbo -06 ............................135.34, 140.08
Yamaha RS Viking -06 ................................................122.03, 125.44
Arctic-Cat Sabercat 700 EFI EXT -06 ............................162.16, 162.16

Doo claims that the new MXZ Renegage 1000 is thier fastest sled yet, therefore we have to assume that it would beat an older Mach. By the way, sleds are all BONE STOCK, 1000' run, Ideal surface. And for you americans, the speed is in km/hr. 168.22 km/hr = 105.14 mph. The 05 MachZ 1000 wasn't even in the runnings. The T-Cat 1000 would have beaten them all if it was entered.

And Big Joe.....no offence, but if your sled was stock, and the T-Cat was stock, the T-Cat would have had a good 10 mph on you. Well.....unless it was the 900 you were running against....then it would be close.
BUT.....the bottom line is this......You can be on a Mach, VMax, T-Cat.....it don't matter, but if you don't know how to drive, I'll beat you on an old 67 olympic.
We always debate on which sleds are faster, when we always forget to include the FACT, that even some of the most experienced riders out there, can't TRULY handle ALL of the available power of some of these big iron sleds.
 

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I do have a v-max 4...but only rated at 135ish I am guessing since it is a 92 (however it does have the jetting and clutch upgrades, along with the head gasket mod)

Its fast enough for me on top end....little slow on the bottem, but not bad.

I am however looking for better. I think I will keep an eye open for a thundercat.

The mach z would I guess be a better trail sled. Have never seen a picture of a thundercat lifting its skis...is it possible on the cat, or is it too heavy? I know the mach does it.
 

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Coming back to reality

top 2 are either the 780 or the 809 Mach Zs are the fastest stock for Stock
 

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You "CAN" make the Vmax 4 the fastest with mods

Look at what Hauck did
 

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