i would sure like to know what all of these problems where, other than guys expecting machz performance out of a twin! maybe mach zzzz could fill us in with all of these problems! nothing of what you said about the mxz 800 is truthful or fact. sure skidoo is improving the engines, didnt they improve the mighty mach z moter a little bit every year. it seems the 93 780 triple wouldnt hold together, the 94/95 wouldnt perform, 1996 was awsome. 97 was a pooch 98 had tons of problems including the bad exhaust system. 99 was better, stil had problems with burned out stator plates. 2000 and 2001 and 2002 a little better. the mxz 800 has only been out two years, why dont you give them a chance, after all we gave them a chance with the mach z. i know you guys are bitter with skidoo for not building you a chariot to compete against the mighty thundercat! they cannot build a machine if it is not going to be profitable. i am betting you diehard triple guys makeup less than one half of a one percent of all the snowmobilers. my facts may be off on this, but one thing for sure, the manufacturers know the facts! i am not trying to bash hear but i am sick of hearing these ck3 guys bash the mxz 800 & skidoo. the mxz 800 is a great sled! ive owned both, the mach z wouldnt keep up to the twins in the trails! so one more time, since you avoided the question, what are these serious problems with the mxz 800
?? i know the 2000 mxz 700 had a serious problem with the oil pump adjustment. if you didnt catch it, you would lose the crank. thats the only known serious problem with the series 3 moters, other than the hand full of bad pistons in 2001, that could happen to any one! the only problem is factory setup! not flaws in the engine! the twins are hear to stay. as for butch, the machz's push real bad in the corners, they have real bad shock fade in extended hammering of rough trails, you have to heard them around the corners especially in the rough stuff. the positive side, the smoothness of the rotax triple, it is problebly the smoothest triple on the planet. it only gets 9 miles per gallon if hammering on it. on groomed trails or corridors, its awesome. but in the rough stuff or off trail riding its not the machine to have. the 200 & newer machz's are veryreliable. please dont edit my post, i am only trying to give a honest/unbiased opinion here. the only problems ive seen with the 800 twin is the expectations, and factory setup. i wasnt happy with mine(mxz800x) when i got it, but it didnt cost me alot money to get it to perform. a couple of belts and a secondary preload adjustment. i am betting skidoo will surprise us with some thing new next year, after all they will have lots of money after they sell the revs!