Butch800, If I could only keep one it would have to be the Mach. I just love that 809!
Its so much smoother and and it just seems to pull harder and longer to me. I think it's as good if not better than the MXZ on flat twisties, but add in some stutter bumps and the MXZ setup is far superior in handling.
I pray they drop the 809 into the ZX chasis, I'm sure they could drop a least 50lbs if they did so. Its time to trim some weigth and update the suspension on the Mach. They better not discontinue it!