[Ontariobound]

I want to take the time this Spring to add a power point/cigerette lighter to my sled. I do not have ekectric start, so no battery. Does anyone have, or know where I can find, detailed directions on how to install one. What wires do I tap in to, etc. Also, do I use a regular automtive grade power point, marine, or is there somewhere to find one specifically for snowmobiles?

Any help you can gice would be appreciated!

Shane

 

[puree]

you should have an empty plug behind your speedo,,, the wires coming in are yellow and brown,,, simply go to your local dealership and get yourself one of their plugs that tap into it and then wire your hot into the yellow and your ground into the brown. I did mine that way and it turned out just fine. I ran the wire through one of the holes that the windshield goes through and then put the cig lighter inside my dash bag. My cig plug for my gps is fused,,, make sure yours is also.

 

[avtech]

you should have an empty plug behind your speedo,,, the wires coming in are yellow and brown,,, simply go to your local dealership and get yourself one of their plugs that tap into it and then wire your hot into the yellow and your ground into the brown. I did mine that way and it turned out just fine. I ran the wire through one of the holes that the windshield goes through and then put the cig lighter inside my dash bag. My cig plug for my gps is fused,,, make sure yours is also.[/b]

I'm a bit curious, here.

What you've found behind the dash, are two wires, yellow and brown, which are (phase and neutral{ground} of a regulated, AC magneto....not 12VDC that you'd find in your car or boat.

Usually, the only rectified 12Volt DC that you find in a sled is for the electric start system. A basic system of diodes, similar to the ones in your car's alternator. These are used to produce a rather "dirty" rectified DC current to charge your battery.

Both systems exist under the hood of your sled (electric start models), but are isolated from each other. If your set-up works fine, I'm curious on how or where the current is rectified before entering your device. I didn't think that electronics were too tolerant to these types of things. Is your GPS receiver factory-set to accept 12VAC?

 

[Ontariobound]

I'm a bit curious, here.

What you've found behind the dash, are two wires, yellow and brown, which are (phase and neutral{ground} of a regulated, AC magneto....not 12VDC that you'd find in your car or boat.

Usually, the only rectified 12Volt DC that you find in a sled is for the electric start system. A basic system of diodes, similar to the ones in your car's alternator. These are used to produce a rather "dirty" rectified DC current to charge your battery.

Both systems exist under the hood of your sled (electric start models), but are isolated from each other. If your set-up works fine, I'm curious on how or where the current is rectified before entering your device. I didn't think that electronics were too tolerant to these types of things. Is your GPS receiver factory-set to accept 12VAC?[/b]

Wow, you are really talking over my head. If the idea that Puree had will not work, does anyone else have any suggestions? My sled does not have electric start!

Thanks,

Shane

 

[puree]

have gps on my firecat and my f6,,,, both have been hooked right up with the brown yellow plug. Also have used the brown yellow plug that is near the servo motor to run my heated visor,,,, they do run through the voltage rectifier which means they are 12 volts,,,

 

[puree]

she sits right here whether you give it the gas or let it idle,,,, I had taken this one a while back testing to see that I had 12 volts at the plug for the heated visor as it wasnt working right,,,, found out that the element inside the visor had broke,,,, voltage was not the issue.

 

[NDMtnSledder]

Not doubting puree that it works but i'm surprised. I had always thought that the accessory plugs were AC not DC which is fine for heating elements and lights but not great for sensitive electronics. If you want to gaurentee your getting 12v DC which I personally would I know of several people that have gotten the part from Polaris to do it. They have a AC-DC converter listed in there snowmobile accessory book somwere and might come with a cigarette socket also. Otherwise I'd suggest going with a marine grade one as they are made of stainless so they don't rust and come with a cover for when you don't have anything plugged in.

 

[puree]

I could have swore that the power after the voltage regulator was a regulated dc source on the cats,,, maybe other companies are different, this I dont know. I know the power at my tail light is at 12 volts as well as my headlight,,, I wired these in here and have ran the gps on them for a year and a half with no problems from either of them,,, so I wouldnt be worried about it.

 

[TallCool1]

she sits right here whether you give it the gas or let it idle,,,, I had taken this one a while back testing to see that I had 12 volts at the plug for the heated visor as it wasnt working right,,,, found out that the element inside the visor had broke,,,, voltage was not the issue.[/b]

Brian speaks the truth. I thought "no way" too until someone explained it this winter, I believe it was Mike (snow800), on one of these boards. It does surprise me though Brian that you get those numbers at idle. The way I understood it, at low rpm's it is AC, but then it "switches" (for a lack of a better term) to DC as the rpm's increase. I'll try to find that thread and link it here for all to see.

I still go with a small 12v battery under my hood, so I can have the gps on while the sled is turned off.

 

[puree]

Jim, here I have been just using the batteries in the gps when I turn the sled off and if they die, I loose that info while its off and also dont get any new info if I dont see it turned off and forget to turn it on.
Those are the honest numbers I was getting at idle though,,, I was holding the probes while my son took the picture,,, I then had him rev it up a couple of times and it does move some, but not much,,, dont remember exactly how much but I dont think it was over 14 volts and my gps still works great.

 

[jeffzr600]

I could have swore that the power after the voltage regulator was a regulated dc source on the cats,,, maybe other companies are different, this I dont know. I know the power at my tail light is at 12 volts as well as my headlight,,, I wired these in here and have ran the gps on them for a year and a half with no problems from either of them,,, so I wouldnt be worried about it.[/b]

If you look at the wiring schematic for the sleds with power valves you will notice there is a seperate DC regulator to provide DC to the power valve servo. Usually it would be the yellow red/red yellow input and brown red out would be the regulated side.