[Big Santa]

i dont know what the two cables are commin out of the oil pump but they seem to be sprayin oil onto the crankcase and clutch. gettin on the belt and makin it slip after a short run. at least one of them seem pretty damn loose
im assumin they are delivery lines up to the carbs.
im gettin enough oil to run safe it seems so i didnt wanna start tryin to tightin anything till i got an opinion.

 

[sledman92]

Should check in right away, My buddy seized his motor because the spring they put on the oil line slipped down and the line kinked..it's not too hard to get too just take off your secondary clutch and air box..Something you should look into...Or maybe premix your gas a bit for reassurance ...........

 

[whanker57]

DO NOT run the sled until you find out where they go.

From the sounds of it you are referring to the two small oil lines that run up to the bottom of the intake boot on the engine. There are 4 lines that go to the oil pump...the 2 that go to the intake, and 2 larger ones that come from the oil tank, supplying the pump with oil.

Check to see if there are lines running from the pump up to the intake. They should attach right before the reeds, between the engine and carbs. (its a rubber boot with a nipple they hook to)

If it is indeed these hoses that are disconnected...I don't know how you haven't blown up your motor....

Make sure they are attached firmly, with clamps if necessary...
You may have to bleed your oil pump, so definately look into that as well.

 

[Big Santa]

the motor seems to be gettin enough oil its been like this all season
the lines are attached one or maybe even two seem like they have a good bit of play or looseness to them
i havent taken a good look at them really.
how do they attach to the pump? can i just put a wrench or plyers on them and tighten it back up?

my plug on the chaincase side always has black burnt lookin oil up on the threads even under the washer on the plug always has alot. is there any connection to the leak problem would ya say?

 

[whanker57]

the motor seems to be gettin enough oil its been like this all season
the lines are attached one or maybe even two seem like they have a good bit of play or looseness to them
i havent taken a good look at them really.
how do they attach to the pump? can i just put a wrench or plyers on them and tighten it back up?

my plug on the chaincase side always has black burnt lookin oil up on the threads even under the washer on the plug always has alot. is there any connection to the leak problem would ya say?[/b]

Normally they just slide over a nipple and are held on by hose clamps. A good new hose will function correctly without hose clamps, but older rubber will probably come loose. Look into getting hose clamps or new hoses altogether. (they are cheap)

I doubt your chaincase bolt threads have anything to do with the oil injection problem. I would sooner suspect your chaincase oil is old/burnt and should be checked. I suppose it is possible that oil is spraying over there and getting cooked on the plug...but only could tell if I was looking at the sled...

 

[Big Santa]

Normally they just slide over a nipple and are held on by hose clamps. A good new hose will function correctly without hose clamps, but older rubber will probably come loose. Look into getting hose clamps or new hoses altogether. (they are cheap)

I doubt your chaincase bolt threads have anything to do with the oil injection problem. I would sooner suspect your chaincase oil is old/burnt and should be checked. I suppose it is possible that oil is spraying over there and getting cooked on the plug...but only could tell if I was looking at the sled...[/b]

no no i meant the chaincase side spark plug always has black oil on the threads.

 

[whanker57]

Ah...sorry for the misunderstanding.

It is possible that there is oil getting thrown around in the engine compartment, although since the plugs have a boot on them, I doubt that it would get on the plug. (I had an oil line loose on my phazer, and it was amazing how much of a mess it made bouncing around in there).

I would venture to guess that you might have a poor seal on the spark plug. Are they new plugs? Look to see if the washer/gasket on the plug is crushed/deformed. It almost sounds like the oil/gas mixture in the cylinder is getting blown by the plug threads and out, all over the plug itself.

I'm not positive though, but it would be something easy to check...

 

[Big Santa]

Ah...sorry for the misunderstanding.

It is possible that there is oil getting thrown around in the engine compartment, although since the plugs have a boot on them, I doubt that it would get on the plug. (I had an oil line loose on my phazer, and it was amazing how much of a mess it made bouncing around in there).

I would venture to guess that you might have a poor seal on the spark plug. Are they new plugs? Look to see if the washer/gasket on the plug is crushed/deformed. It almost sounds like the oil/gas mixture in the cylinder is getting blown by the plug threads and out, all over the plug itself.

I'm not positive though, but it would be something easy to check...[/b]

this is my second plug that i noticed gettin oily on me on that side the last one i changed out was actually dead one morning and had a good bit of oil on it. is it possible my the threads in the head are wore or stripped a little and im losin compression and gettin burnt oil pushed out through?

 

[whanker57]

I suppose its possible that the plug threads are stripped, not totally but enough for some blow by. I am not sure how you would check this without taking the head off and getting it on the bench where you could get at it...

 

[IceFisherman]

Are you sure the oil isn't leaking out of your tach cable and being blown around by the "fan" effect caused by the clutches and belt spinning???

 

[Big Santa]

Are you sure the oil isn't leaking out of your tach cable and being blown around by the "fan" effect caused by the clutches and belt spinning???[/b]

it looks to be the tach cable. im not sure if thats whats leakin but it seems loose.
what should i do about it?

 

[IceFisherman]

The tach cables are notorious for leaking oil. Mine leaks as well and I'm just trying to figure out how to fix it. I think I might try some teflon plumber's tape around the steel cable housing end, so that when I screw down the tach cable tight, it will hopefully seal. The problem is, the "nut" (for lack of a better word) that screws the tach cable tight to the oil pump housing, does not seal properly on the flared steel end of the cable housing. If the plumber's tape doesn't seal it, I might try finding an "O" ring to go between there.

 

[Big Santa]

The tach cables are notorious for leaking oil. Mine leaks as well and I'm just trying to figure out how to fix it. I think I might try some teflon plumber's tape around the steel cable housing end, so that when I screw down the tach cable tight, it will hopefully seal. The problem is, the "nut" (for lack of a better word) that screws the tach cable tight to the oil pump housing, does not seal properly on the flared steel end of the cable housing. If the plumber's tape doesn't seal it, I might try finding an "O" ring to go between there.[/b]

what can i put on the cable end to try and tighten it down? a pair of plyers? or will a wrench fit on it?
does yours have alot of play in it even when its tight?

 

[IceFisherman]

use pliers to grip it. Just don't squeeze too tight.

 

[Big Santa]

i got the plyers on it and got it to turn a very small amount. somehow i dont htink that the little turn will solve my problem.
so the oil comes out around where the fitting on the end of the cable joins the pump. or where the cable end goes into the fitting thats on the end of the cable? lol if ya can make any sence of all that.
it was real hard to get at the thing to tighten it. maybe with the clutches off i could get at it but i dont plan on taking them off just to get at it right now.

 

[wwracer]

Look close at your tach cable. There should be a rubber cover that goes over the nut for the tach. Feel the cable all the way up past the airbox and see if someone slipped it up out of the way. The cable connection should be snug but don't overtighten as you'll mall the threads. A little tightening can go a long ways in solving oil leaks.......