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V-max Getting Tossed Around

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I was out riding the Seguin Trail yesterday with my 94 V-max 600. Trail was pretty chewed up. Lots of loose sloppy snow. The front end is hunting around and rear end is squirming around and drifting out. I'm seeing other guys out there on newer/nicer sleds ripping by like I'm standing still. I do find if I get up off the seat and lean forward a bit I can get going way faster and the sled just hops around under me. Problem is that's a bit hard on you. Sled has a studded track and new carbides.

Are these other guys getting tossed around but it's just not as obvious? Are the newer suspensions that much better? Any other V-max riders find similar behaviour and if so, what do you do?
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Royal Distributing has something called "Easy Steer". Basically it mounts on your skis with a cutout for the carbide. The thinking is that it flattens out trail right in front of your carbide so you don't follow someone elses path.

Anyone try these? They are only $15/pr, so I'm going to try them.
I've never heard anything good about easy-steers. You could try dual runners, they seem to help a little.
Really though, it's probably the conditions, and I'm sure the newer sleds are getting tossed around lots too.

A number of things you can try though.
Make sure your skis are aligned correctly.
Let out your limiter strap a little to take some weight off the skis.
A set of decent plastic skis.
The Seguin trail can eat some older sleds. I find the easy steers just get ripped off. If ski doo's PCS will fit on your skis, they are better then easy steers. They can take more of a beating. Your suspention can't take a beating like a newer sled. If you put handle bar risor on you can stand & use your legs when the trail gets rough. Make sure your frt end & steering is tight also. The old V Max & Phazers were known for getting sloppy
The Seguin trail can eat some older sleds. I find the easy steers just get ripped off. If ski doo's PCS will fit on your skis, they are better then easy steers. They can take more of a beating. Your suspention can't take a beating like a newer sled. If you put handle bar risor on you can stand & use your legs when the trail gets rough. Make sure your frt end & steering is tight also. The old V Max & Phazers were known for getting sloppy[/b]
Please don't put on PCS skis, I hate the ruts they leave. By far the worst ruts to get stuck in and it makes the trail hazardous for any other sleds. Drives me crazy.
I went with a set of simmons flex skis this year on the firecat and they made a world of difference as compared to stock,,,, I know I felt like I couldnt turn at all with the stock skis,,,, found a lot of corners that I used the far bank to turn on and I wasnt going into those corners hot,,,, thing just wouldnt turn,,,, with the flex skis,,, thing turns on a dime,,, not a cheap investment, but one well worth it
Yeah I have a buddy who used to race motocross and BMX, but he never snowmobiled. I put him on my 96 Vmax 600 (long track) while I was on my 99 RMK piped 700 about two weeks ago. No question I had the better suspension front and rear and a lot more engine, but every time we got to bumpy trails (often) I noticed my buddy was right on my a$$. I had to let him go ahead of me and he stayed ahead everywhere except the straightaways where I would rocket ahead, only to have to let him pass me again in the bumps. Long story short, he's simply a more skilled trail rider. He told me the faster you go through the bumps the smoother it is, and it turns out he's right. He told me he thought the Vmax suspension was awesome, made a point of telling me how great it was. I was speechless, I always thought it was pretty terrible. In fact, compared to modern sleds or even my Gen II RMK, it is a pretty terrible suspension, but the skill of the rider is a huge factor. So while your Vmax suspension isn't the greatest, rest easy knowing that a more skilled rider would be able to go faster. Or in short, it's not your sled, it's you ;) Take it from someone who got blown away in the bumps by a certified newbie on a 96 Vmax 600, which is essentially the same as a 94. The short track version may be more wild, I don't know, but the skill factor remains. My best advice is if you're about to hit some hard bumps stand up and use your knees (like a skier) as additional shock absorbers...much more effective than your spinal column trust me.

As far as Vmax steering goes, I have very heavy steering, meaning there is a lot of pressure on the skis and generally the sled goes where you point the handlebars. Carbides are getting old but I still have good steering, just a little more effort than my other sleds. I haven't had any steering related problems. I'm using skidoo summit plastic skis, the low-end model they put on the recent 550s, so they are a lot better than the Vmax stock but nothing special. If you feel too light on your skis you might reduce (tighten) your front limiter. I have mine all the way open (loose) and it seems like I could still use less ski pressure, but all in all it's solid and grips the trail like crazy. If you still have the stock skis on there I would start looking for a replacement because those were the worst skis I've ever seen. Problem is that year Vmax has a 3.5" spindle width and good luck finding skis to fit. I cut down the spindle to fit 3" ski saddle and then you can use almost any plastic ski off ebay. Good luck.
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So, the sled's good, I just suck...ha ha

I understand what you're saying. I prefer that, its cheaper. I don't plan to put any $$ into upgrading this sled unless I had to replace something anyway.

Thanks for your insight.
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