I figured I would start a new topic, whether anybody wants to respond or not, that is fine. Well here it is. What does everyone think about the Apex mountain or RS Vector Mountain ER? To tell you the truth, I am not a yamaha man, but I do like these two sleds. I think in a couple years they might be the best sleds out there because of the four stroke technology, especially if the EPA cracks down even more. Yamaha made a real gamble when they switched to a four stroke dominated line up, but it is paying off now. I heard they are super smooth throughout the whole powerband which is a good thing and the new mountain specific suspension is supposed to be great too. I would really like to ride one of these two sleds in the future. They look great and they seem to perform great and they are slimming down every year. The one thing I dont know about is putting the 162 inch track on the RS Vector ER. It seems like it might be too much track for it, but i guess i wont know till i ride one. Also I think they should of gave track options to the Apex and the Vector. Like a 144", 151", and then 162". But I guess that might come in the future. Those are my two cents on the topic. Peace.